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September 11 showdown with Ohio State is at noon Eastern Time on Fox

That's an advantage for the Buckeyes, playing in their own time zone. But Oregon practices in the morning and will train for it, mentally and physically.

The bigger challenge is that tOSU is so dang talented.

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Flock Talk: The Big Gamble

Going to be another busy and hectic day tomorrow (relief is on the way for me though); thought I would post Flock Talk here tonight.


Getting defensive

When we are young, we believe in magic; we believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairies and every sort of magic that brings joy; and I think that such hopefulness can be a very good thing. As we grow, though, these beliefs are replaced by realities that seem to drown out what little hope might be left.

After his introduction in 2009, Larry Scott commented on hope for the future, his recognition that the (then) Pac-10 wanted more commercial success and his leadership experience in athletics was widely praised.

The Pac-10's member schools "are craving different, more media exposure, more commercial success where it's possible, innovative and different ways to promote the conference -- all things I feel I've done before," Scott said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press.

When Scott negotiated the largest media rights deal in college football history two years later, even more praise was heaped upon the slender shoulders of a former college tennis player from Harvard.

And the great deal that was, suddenly was not. The projected windfall of a Pac-12 Network never came to full fruition as it became painfully clear that Direct TV did not value the Pac-12 as much as other conferences – and data have backed their negativity more than anything. Viewer numbers for Pac-12 games – despite some significant television markets – do not match those of the SEC, Big-10 or Big-12.

That 2011 deal was considered a coup at the time; but all it really did was set the market for the SEC, Big-10, Big-12 and to a lesser extent the ACC. Holding out hope that the next round of negotiations will bring a sudden windfall seems a fantasy more so than a reality.

So, when George Kliavkoff was introduced as the next Pac-12 Commissioner and began with the “honest” assessment of what is wrong with the conference, he already missed the mark. He said many of the right things like "we know where our bread is buttered," and "we're focused on the revenue sports and winning in football and men's basketball," it resonated well.

But so did Larry Scott’s introduction.

Kliavkoff is still going to be hamstrung by university presidents who want to make public their belief that “the prestige level of the public universities within the conference will be among the main differentiators in the Pac-12's favor when compared to other P5 conferences.”

In the same breath when talking about revenue expansion, he ignores the reality that college football and basketball viewers absolutely do not care about the prestige level of the universities that they choose to watch on television. They just do not care. The difference between the SEC and other Power Five conferences is very simple: they have more viewers and get better television deals – hence more money into their coffers to pay coaches more. You get what you pay for.

The biggest item on the agenda for an incoming Pac-12 Commissioner is to get more fans in the stands and more eyes on the television; you cannot win this battle from supply side television where putting the games on televisions generates higher viewership; you have to force every school to take football and basketball seriously enough that the best coaches and best players want to be plying their wares in the Pac-12 Conference. All of the other talk is window dressing.

Less eyes equals less money. More money will equal more eyes. So, will Kliavkoff convince university presidents to willingly generate huge debt to prop up football and basketball programs? In the Pac-12 landscape, that seems highly improbable.

If Kliavkoff wants to turn around the Pac-12 and make them competitive with those other conferences financially, the negotiation he has to win will not be with television networks, but with university presidents.

Can Oregon break ground for the Pac-12?

For the last couple of years, Oregon has seemed the best chance for the Pac-12 to break the streak of non-national championship years for the conference.

It is going to be a tough road for basketball as they integrate what will constitute a team that is virtually brand new. While Dana Altman does a fantastic job blending the mixed parts that have become his yearly basketball rotation, he has not really come close to a national championship since the departure of Dillon Brooks, Jordan Bell, Dylan Ennis, Payton Pritchard and Tyler Dorset came a rebound away from a National Championship Game appearance in Phoenix. That team was led by players who had been teammates for three years and a fantastic freshman.

It is too early to call the 2021 Oregon football team one that will break through that ceiling; a tough road trip early may give some indication, but honestly, a single championship will not turn the tide of viewers and attitudes. It will be called a fluke and pushed aside as an anomaly that cannot be duplicated with regularity.

It would take sustained excellence by the conference or domination by a single school to generate the kind of viewership needed to stand toe-to-toe with the SEC or Big-10 for television revenues. Instead this is going to take conference wide investment and a conference wide push. Will it help if Oregon breaks through and wins a title? Absolutely. Either way, however, an investment in winning must take place before the conference simply sets the stage for the rest of college football.

How does this affect recruiting?

Right now, across the United States, college football coaches are drooling at the thought of stealing more elite West Coast players. This hire energized their belief that the conference is not wholly invested in the sport that pays most of the bills.

Part of that football investment has to include money at every university to hire bigger staffs; to recruit like Oregon. And I think that is where the Ducks can change this game for the conference. Right now, Oregon and USC pretty much are the only schools that land elite talent. Getting players to Washington State might be deemed difficult – but there were those that thought Oregon was too difficult to lure recruits to; and they were wrong. It takes energy, devotion, commitment and a relentless drive to have the absolute best talent on every roster.

Some teams have attempted to mimic Oregon, but too many accept their plight as also-rans and that kind of defeatism is what separates the Pac-12 from other conferences.

This is a big gamble. Either the conference wins big, or they fall flat on their face. Given that it was the presidents and chancellors that wanted this hire, I am not convinced the conference wins big here.

Dalton DL MVP at UA/ESPN Camp

Says he's up to 270! Since they say he likes the weight room, it's more than Mama's cooking. Sounds like he might get an ratings upgrade.

Justin bulks up

At a Chargers workout this week Justin Herbert was throwing Keenan Allen and several other teammates.

The video link below focuses chiefly on Allen, but in the background you'll catch a glimpse of the new, improved Justin Herbert, who has clearly added some functional muscle. He looks ripped and mobile rolling to his left and firing his typical laser-targeted bullet.

He doesn't appear to have lost any fluidity, but the stronger body could help him in enduring the NFL season, which has been expanded to 17 regular season games.

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News and notes from around the PAC-12, plus Oregon nonconference opponents

Oregon has won 16 straight home openers, dating back to a debacle against Indiana in 2004. In that one the Ducks committed 7 turnovers and lost 30-24 despite allowing just 197 yards on defense.

This year they open versus Fresno State on September 4th, a week before their showdown with Ohio State in Columbus.

The Bulldogs were 3-3 last season. Quarterback Jake Haener, a transfer from Washington, threw 14 touchdowns with 5 interceptions in 2020, completing 64.7% of his passes for 2021 yards.

FSU will come to Autzen with an edge in game experience--they open a week earlier with a home date against UConn.

At their spring game on May 5th Haener threw three touchdown passes as the offense cranked out 11 TDs in a 90-minute scrimmage. Freshman running back Malik Sherrod scored three of the touchdowns, hauling in a 20-yard pass from Haener and bolting for 62 yards on his first carry of the day.

The website Pro Football Focus has named its top returning players in the country by position group. A big challenge for Oregon centers Jackson Powers-Johnson and Alex Forsyth will be Ohio State's Haskell Garrett, 6-2, 299, rated the country's best nose tackle

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Kayvon Thibodeaux gets a nod as the nation's second-best edge rusher behind Oklahoma's Nik Bonitto, while the Buckeyes get recognition for having two of the most dangerous returning wide receivers in the NCAA, Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson.

October 30 opponent Colorado has been the PAC-12's most active team in the transfer portal. Karl Dorrell has been a regular Doctor Who, landing a bevy of once-touted players and intriguing retreads:

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The Buffs have had some defections as well, notably 5-star defensive tackle Antonio Alfano, who left for Alabama.

There's always a risk with transfers, a challenge in getting them to mesh with a new team and have a net positive impact on the culture.

Washington returns all five starters on the offensive line, a group that combined last year to allow 0.25 sacks per game (one total) also finished first in the Pac-12 and second in the nation.

The Huskies got a big boost when senior Jesuit (Portland, Oregon) product Jaxson Kirkland elected to return for his senior season, passing up a chance at the NFL draft.

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One of the most daunting challenges on the Oregon schedule is their November 20 road game to Utah, always a tough, physical, disciplined, well-coached opponent, particularly at Rice-Eccles Stadium.

The Utes feel very confident in Baylor transfer quarterback Charlie Brewer, who shined in spring scrimmages.

Brewer left Baylor as the #2 quarterback in school history.

In 44 career games with the Bears, Brewer threw for 9,700 yards and 65 touchdowns. He posted back-to-back 3,000-yard passing seasons in 2018 and 2019. Brewer posted 10 300-yard passing games and a pair of 400-yard games during his time in Waco, Texas.

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Poll: the Ducks will threepeat as PAC-12 Champions only if:

The Ducks will repeat as PAC-12 Champions only if

  • Anthony Brown proves out as QB-1 and as a leader.

  • The defense lives up to the hype.

  • The offensive solidifies. They find an answer at LT and several of the young guys reach maturity.

  • Kayvon Thibodeaux has a first-round draft pick impact.

  • The running game improves--200+ yards a game.

  • They get more explosiveness and reliability from the young receivers and tight ends.

  • Special teams are special.

  • They handle a very tough road schedule, trips to tOSU, Stanford, UCLA, Washington and Utah.

  • There are no letdown/clunker games against teams with inferior talent.

  • Mario Cristobal lets the coordinators call the game they want to play.


Results are only viewable after voting.

If a better/different answer occurs to you, please specify in the comments.

Addtional question: many feel the Ducka are "a year away" from being national contenders. But with Kayvon Thibodeaux, Verone Mckinley, Jamal Hill and Mykael Wright being draft eligible after 2021, is the outlook truly better in 2022?
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