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Springs essentially calling out the front 7 and Hoke as well.......hope they can nip this in the bud or it could get nasty.

Oregonian:

"The quarterback had all day," corner Arrion Springs said. "We can't cover forever. We can try. He was just all day back there dinking and dunking down the field. ... It was a good game plan initially but we just did the zone like every time. We needed to switch it up a little more."

Corey
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How much evidence do we need to make a decision?

Helfrich has the following stats

11-7 without Mariota

Largest loss in Stadium History (Utah Last year)

Largest comeback in Bowl History (TCU)

Lost to Nebraska with PAT Deal

Players came out flat against Colorado

What else do we need to see? He isn't a good head coach and we will NEVER win big with him in charge. IMO!

I'm not going to anymore games with him as coach either. I have had tickets for over 20 years so you can call that bandwagon, but that is just my deal.

NEW COACH

So it sounds like I'm not the only one who thinks we need a new HC now? I'm sure Mullens has a list in his office and is working our what to do and when as he knows we can't just let it cave. Next week is gonna be a blood bath. 12 Years and Peterson didn't get the call when we hired Helfrich and he is pissed about it.

Herbert Should Start

If we're relying on freshmen for our future, why not let a burned redshirt freshman start and give us some hope for next year? I have nothing against Prukop, but reaching out for unreasonable band aids for lack of MM has run it's course. Time for our head coach to nut it up and play for his job. And that means recognizing what he has isn't good enough for his future...assuming he has one...and play the man he thinks he should lead it.

Dye

Anybody know what the deal is with him?

Plays like every other game?

In the Oregonian this am Hoke said it was MH's decision not to play him.

"Cornerback Arrion Springs was surprised Dye, who practiced all week, did not make the trip, and defensive coordinator Brady Hoke said the decision was not his but Helfrich's. Asked if he expected Dye to play next week against Washington, Hoke said, "Yeah, far as I know."

WTF

Corey

Helfrich has led us to mediocrity....

Anybody disagree with that?

He lived off Chips players and philosophy, mostly Marcus (and yes I know Helf. recruited Marcus).

We come out flat in both halves, no creativity any longer on "O" and the "D" leaves me and I assume all of you speechless.

I am not giving up this year but can easily see at least 4 more losses this year including the Dawgs....ugh!!!!! I HOPE I AM WRONG HERE.

Nobody stays on top forever and we are no longer on top....obviously!

UPDATE: Helfrich has led us past mediocrity.

I'm speechless. We were in the Natty two years ago people, we are now bad! We can use every excuse in the book injuries, we're young etc. etc. but we look lost in just about every area.

I like Mark as far as being a nice guy but let's stop fibbing to ourselves...he is over his head!

No easy answer but he needs to go at years end IMO barring a miraculous turn around.

Three in a row, and I'm not willing to bet big money on us beating anybody else

Thoughts???

I've Got A Feeling or a vision of the past

This is A.J. Feely and Joey Harrington rolled into Jason Fire and Kellen Clemmons. Unfortunately right now we have a wonderful,intelligent articulate and likeable Prukop playing the role of Jason Fire. (personalities.charisma and IQ are very very similar......on &off the field) While Justin Herbert plays the role of Joey Harrington the young, charismatic lifelong Duckfan and future Joey Heisman Campaign player.........i spent my 2nd full year as a l season ticket holder watching Captain Comback get his feet wet behind one of my favorite and longtime NFLer Ducks A.J. Feeley.

Again my feeling. ....

Justin Herbert> 1st yr Off The Bench Joey
Prukop=Fire


Roseburg intelligent solution:
is to start Prukop, play Hebert for several series that are designed to play to his strengths . The result will be experience for the future while creating a competitive advantage within the gameplan today.....Insert Helfrich's argument for the 2 point conversion opposition practice time strategy here.

Results:
11 Second Herbert showed enough in a series (or Prukop has shown us enough)hat he has the physical abilities. Mental accuem to convert his childhood section 12 memories into the old school EA Sports and bring the future and hope to he Autzen Turf Saturday against the Huskies. Let him get ready to lead next year. Let him see if he can inspire the uninspired! What the he'll is there to lose.

Ps, all typos thanks to Kindle and Autocorect stupidly
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Loss of Innocence and Common Sense

We spend a lot of time on loyalty, if not obeisance on this site pleading for our continuity of coaching and loyalty and family, etc, etc etc.

In case we haven't been looking, or too Duck fevered with rapture on the sanctity of our coaches, they out earn a lot of us by a quantum force. Why is it we view them as priests of the holy duck egg when they have to earn their wages just like any working stiff?

NCAA Football is big business. Nike is big business and has invested, maybe close to a half $Billion or more on the football program. TV revenue flows and the PAC 12 has it's own income stream from the network and major outlet revenues, aside from ticket sales.

It's quaint and maybe valuable that we cling to notions of innocence that many of us used to have about team, school and spirit as long as we can. Because it's not the world we live in. Most of us are judged on our fitness reports, yet we have so much forbearance on the performance of coaches who draw $Millions as if they are some holy priesthood beyond reproach.

I'm always dismayed by posters who wrap laurels and thanks around Rob Mosely for reporting on what he's paid to do, on practices with all the import and nuances of a stuffed raccoon as of he were some Delphic oracle.

Maybe the healthiest thing that's happened after our run is to acknowledge it's over and deal with it. And if we don't like it, pound the table and hold those in charge to the same rules that rule us. And those rules begin with earning one's keep.

Management of the Program Has It's Share of the Malaise

By any metric, the fact we are freshmen heavy and continuing in a death spiral on defense is clearly a failure of recruiting. And from the O line performance tonight, I'd say the failure is on two fronts and LB...and maybe more.
The result is simply now unacceptable. Part of our problem can't all be laid on coaching/recruiting. It's also on management...the AD...who is charged with coaching personnel decisions and in setting the program standards.

The boys in charge have not served us well as stewards of a team with NC pretensions. Falling back on the sop that every team has it's ups and downs won't cut it considering our steep dive into mediocrity two years from the NC.
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