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What's left for DBs

What's left for DBs

Just a few notes:

Last I heard Ah You is planning on taking his mission, so it makes sense that the coaches aren't over exerting themselves in his recruitment. He won't play for a few years.

Talbott isn't as high on the board as a few others, but could see a shot if the Ducks whiff on other higher targets.

Missing a few prospects that I would place above Ah You and Talbott in Jaylen Kelly-Powell and Elijah Gates. A longer shot would be above them too in Bubba Bolden.

email that I sent to a friend

After i sent this, my friend asked me to post it on this board. I hesitate to post it because it is such a long email and I don't really think that my opinion should be all that important. However, I have decided to share it.

Here is what I feel about UO football.
#1. I didn't think that Helf was the best hire, but he did offer continuity and stability of the staff. My argument was that Petersen also offered that continuity since he had coached at Oregon with most of the staff that was remaining. Petersen also had successful head coaching experience., and was just more seasoned. He seemed like an unusually fortuitous fit.
#2 Helf is BECOMING more seasoned. He doesn't have the same resume that he did when we hired him. He is, no doubt, on a learning curve.
#3 Character and respectability count with me. From what I'm hearing Helf has both...but I really can't know
#4 When Oregon did so extremely well under Kelly, too many people gave the credit to the fan base, Phil Knight's donations, the uniforms etc. The truth was that Kelly had a superior system and a stable long term staff much of which went back to the Rich Brook's era.. That was a perfect combination. Great staffs win football games.
#5 So much of the Oregon fan base wanted to hire a coach that understood the spread offense. An offense is transitory. Football is always evolving. Bellotti knew that. That is why Mike went to the spread. Tedford didn't know that and that is why he ran the Oregon offense at Cal after defenses were more capable of defensing it. You have to stay one step ahead in the evolutionary process. The things that don't change are the fundamentals. You must have a coach that stresses fundamentals.
#6 Chip Kelly's don't just come along. Bellotti knew that. That is why he dug him up out of New Hampshire. That is also why he hired him as his replacement. However, the fans (and the national hype) gave too much credit to themselves and Phil Knight for Oregon's success. Yes, the Oregon fan base is passionate. Yes the facilities have made success easier. Yes the Oregon branding is outstanding. Those things all help, but they were not the foundation for Oregon's great success.
#7 It is fine to continue to hope for excellence, but if we demand it we just might find ourselves in the same situation that UCLA was in when John Wooden retired. They demanded that they get another John Wooden....dream on!
#8 Oregon fans had a very high set point on their expectations. It was inevitable that a proverbial bump in the road was going to send our band wagon fans screaming for the coach's head. Big time college football is competitive. There are 11 other schools in the Pac 12 that are all trying to be the next dynasty. The arms race war is in full swing. We may have the best facilities, but a lot of our rivals also have impressive facilities.....and better weather....and world class academics. It isn't automatic that Oregon football,( or even USC football for that matter) is going to be a dynasty.
#9 Cooler heads are more reasonable heads. Football fans are passionate. Football fans are emotional. Football fans can be aggressive , angry and even down right mean. Let's try to pull back from the emotion. If Helfrich is going to continue to take this program in the wrong direction, it will be apparent soon enough. I realize that he had a Heisman Trophy QB carry his team to greatness. Remember Helfrich identified and recruited that unheralded superstar to come to Oregon. So, Mark should get credit for Mariota.
I saw a post on educk that read "I'd even settle for having Bellotti over Helfrich right now" Many Oregon fans are spoiled and unrealistic. We all want a national championship team. All fan basis want that. However, if in insisting to get that kind of program we end up destroying a good program it will be self defeating....just like it's been at USC. Having a good program and a clean program isn't exactly a worst case situation. The ball is in Helf's court. Let's see if he is developing a young team or destroying a good football program. I honestly am not sure. I'm interested in finding out.

OT My Oregon

As a "townie", I transfered to Oregon from an eastern school with snotty notions of what I could get from the school in Eugene. I quickly learned that the English Department here was superior...by far... than the trendy place above the Potomac. In those days, our frats fought for jocks and "face men" and gloried in trapping a few of each. But in between dragging for dates on Fridays at Maxie's and too many beers we managed enough conversations to find out, perhaps for the first time, the immense value of friendships. And these, strong enough to last a lifetime.

We used to send our pledges to lock down seats at Hayward while we drank morning beers beyond the flower farm on the Willamette and came to the game with florid and generous expectations either way. We just wanted to have fun watching Oregon football for its own sake as some guy in a raccoon coat called Boola Boola was crowd surfed up an aisle.

Football was a part of the experience, but by far, was never the most valued or remembered. In fact, during my Nam days and after, I never gave football a thought until long after. After marriage and a trip to Rosarito Beach with my wife, where a bar just happened to be showing a one point Duck win over Arizona. In the meantime, the constant connection was the relationships made at Eugene which never lacked for contact and immense and lasting affection.

Oregon gave me a joy for the written word and history and the joy of lifelong friends. And there is pang of regret that the one point win in a Rosarito bar would reintroduce me to a game and an importance that I never experienced before while on campus. Bowl games followed and then...well...the remembered joys of English and History and friends was seduced away by the urgency of elite football.

There is something discordant about all of this when we reflect on our school and what it should mean to us. The fact that it should mean everything that prepared us to meet life did not require that we beat Auburn or OSU...or even Colorado. The fact is that football has become a false metaphor for institutional greatness. It doesn't produce astronauts or nobel laureates and may just only produce a dyspeptic discord that ruins a perfectly grand Saturday afternoon.

Love of school does not require a season of perfect football and in fact rejects it as an irrelevant, if not frankly mindless exercise in evaluating what is truly important. But when the game is treated as a value that exceeds the school instead of a positive adjunct is time to reflect and reconsider the notion of value and remembrance and put it in it's proper place. Oregon is mightier than football.

Always and forever a Duck....no matter what.

Lets clear out the "band Wagon"

It's very easy to call yourself a Duck when everything is "peaches and cream". True character is revealed in times of adversity. In my 25 year military career I've seen the most confident and seemingly brave individuals buckle under stress. Who are you? Are you a true Duck? Do you remember when we couldn't buy a win? When our biggest game was the Civil War. I, like a good number of people here, grew up in a time when Oregon football was a joke. When Autzen was practically empty on Saturdays. Let us not forget our roots.
Our team's mantra is "Win the Day". However, I don't think its possible to win everyday. Seems to me like a lot of people have forgotten the constant learning cycle that is college football. News flash people.... Oregon will never be Alabama.
As I read these posts I consistently hear unrealistic expectations and people screaming for coaches heads like they even have a clue. You think you're a better coach then I guess you should have applied for the job. You're talking about somebodies job. Their profession and their livelihood. Coach Helfrich pours his life into this team. You might want to consider that.
People tend to jump to conclusions without any real concrete information or considering all the elements at play. We are a very, very young team with young coaches and new schemes. This last game we lost our best offensive player. Started how many freshman? and went up against a team that is loaded with seniors in their own house and got beat in the 4th quarter by 3 points. Our kids played hard and grew up a little. They did some good and they did some bad. They will learn. Will you?

So endith the rant.........

Is something wrong?

Taking the big view of the football program I wonder what is happening. Lack of transparency (closed practices) does not help in times like this where people are looking for answers. Actual answers. Are practices still efficient? Are the coaches focusing the team on the right things with their practice time? Are coaches being demanding enough? Too much?

Yes we can call for Helfrich's head.

But why exactly? What does he, or any coach need to do? All we know is what we see in games. We see players executing barely not good enough. We see too many penalties, fairly thrown or not. Is it something that can be fixed? It's hard to tell because we have only seen the players and coaches in action four times in the last five months.

The line between winning and losing is a fine one. Oregon is two plays away from being 4-0. But they should not be 2-2.

Can Helfrich turn it around?

Time to Grow UP

Please read this great Oregon Live article about the players meeting post Colorado. Far from throwing it in, we see team leadership take control and assign personal responsibility, especially to the young ones. Note the reference to paying too much attention to hype and the need to "grow up."

http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2016/09/in_players-only_meeting_oregon.htm

My-King Johnson visit notes...

I talked to one of the official visitors from this weekend Tempe DE My-King Johnson. Overall my impression is that he is playing it very close to the vest. But...he will make his decision in the next month or two. He sounded eager to be done with it. He still has a visit to Texas A&M to take before he makes up his mind.

Basically he has a final three of Oregon, USC and Texas A&M. Oregon was his first OV, he has been to USC unofficially and says he doesn't need to official there too. I'm going to write the story now and will post it here.
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Visitors this weekend...

Here we are with another home game Friday and as such I am confirming with prospects that they will be visiting as Colorado comes to town.

So far we have confirmed:

Josh Falo -
6:56 am update: Josh says this visit will be an unofficialhttps://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/5894
Trajon Cotton
Sampson Niu
- 12:20 pm update: Sampson says he just arrived in Eugene
My-King Johnson - 2:25 pm update: MKJ just confirmed so this is all the expected visitors confirmed today.

Confirmed not to be here (who was reported to be coming):

Alex Forsyth - 2:49 pm update: no OV for Forsyth this weekend. Will be weekend of UW game

For hoops we are expecting a huge weekend:

Troy Brown
Daejon Davis -
9:52 pm update: Davis is on campus
Brandon Randolph - 7:21 pm update: Randolph just arrived in Eugene

I will keep this thread updated with any changes.

Helfrish Post Game Comments...

1. This is on me
2. Our guys played hard
3. Give Colorado credit
4. Gotta get back to work
5. Saw improvement in some areas and need to work on others

Blah blah blah. I love our kids. We have a great group of players and talent on this roster. I have held my tongue for a long time but after watching this game I sincerely hope we find a new coach at the end of the season. This team has another 4 losses to come this season. I will be here rooting for them all the way but I have lost all confidence in the ability of our coaches to prepare our guys and put a team on the field equal to the talent we have on the roster. This hurts like the Utah game from last season... or Washington State, or TCU
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